Tony Sager: “Economics Always Wins”

August 21, 2024

Today’s Guest: Tony Sager, Chief Evangelist at The Center for Internet Security and 35-year veteran of the National Security Agency.

Tony shares how economics factors into security and how you should think about software if you care about security.

Hiding Vulns Sink All Ships

Jul 17, 2025

As the maritime industry modernizes—from AI-powered vessels and cloud-connected ports to autonomous navigation—the cybersecurity challenges grow deeper. In this episode of Exploited: The Cyber Truth, RunSafe Security CEO Joe Saunders joins Duncan Woodbury, CEO of...

Creative Resilience in Cybersecurity & AI: A Conversation with Joe Saunders and Leslie Grandy

Jul 10, 2025

What happens when you blend creative thinking with technical strategy? In this episode, Joe Saunders and Leslie Grandy uncover how tools like inversion thinking, “Premeditation of Evils,” and generative AI can reshape the future of cybersecurity. They discuss how...

Weaponized Before Disclosure: Rethinking Vulnerability Intelligence for Embedded Systems

Jun 26, 2025

Threat actors aren’t waiting for public CVE announcements—they’re exploiting vulnerabilities long before organizations even know they exist. In this episode of Exploited: The Cyber Truth, Patrick Garrity, Security Researcher at VulnCheck, joins Joe Saunders, CEO of...