Welcome to “Lessons from the School of Security Hard Knocks,” a compelling podcast where global leaders share their most challenging lessons from the security domain. Join host Joe Saunders, founder and CEO of RunSafe Security, as he engages with esteemed guest speakers who unveil insights gained from navigating the toughest security scenarios. Subscribe now and get new episodes delivered to your inbox as soon as they go live!

General Greg Touhill: “Ask for Help”

Today’s Guest: General Greg Touhill, the first Federal CISO.

In this episode General Touhill discusses his service in the military, his work at DHS, our new administration’s top priorities, and embracing zero trust as a business imperative. General Touhill highlights the importance of adopting a framework, communication, and follow through.

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John Felker: “Trust but Verify”

Today’s guest is John Felker, Senior Fellow at the McCrary Institute for Cyber and Critical Infrastructure Security.

In this episode, we learn about leadership, listening, and building organizations to align with the mission. But we also learn why it is important to both trust and verify.

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Tommy Gardner: “You’ll Never Stop Learning”

Today’s guest is Tommy Gardner, Chief Technology Officer at HP Federal.

In this episode, Tommy discusses his role at HP Federal, his company’s background and green initiative, the role of research in cybersecurity, designing with cybersecurity in mind, and some of the most formidable lessons he’s learned along the way.

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Dr. Edward Amoroso: “How Angels View Cloud Computing”

Today’s guest is Dr. Edward Amoroso, CEO of TAG Cyber LLC.

In this episode, we explore the different profiles of CISOs and the balance between simplicity and complexity.

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Michelle Valdez: “Putting Your Boss to the Test”

Today’s guest is Michelle Valdez, Chief Information Security Officer at OneMain Financial.

In this episode, we learn how to bring context and relevance to deep technical issues to help build resilient organiztions and systems.

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Rick Howard: “The Atomic Question”

Today’s guest is Rick Howard, Chief Security Officer at Palo Alto Networks.

In this episode we learn how great leaders embrace teammates who make mistakes and help learn their lessons.

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Robert Knake: “Cybersecurity in State of Transition”

Today’s guest is Rob Knake, Senior Fellow for Cyber Policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.

In this episode, Rob discusses the cybersecurity risk associated with a transition to the new administration, disinformation on social media as a threat to cybersecurity, the United States’ decision on 5G, the DoD, the importance of critical infrastructure security, and his recent book: “The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats”.

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Sanjay Bavisi: “Certified Ethical Hackers Are Not Only Pen Testers”

Today’s guest is Sanjay Bavisi, President of EC-Council.

In this episode, we explore how an attorney who was a technologist at heart has followed his passion to make a global impact on security.

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Bill Crowell: “Push for Progress”

Today’s guest is Bill Crowell, partner at Alsop Louie Partners.

Bill shares some of the expertise he’s gained as Deputy Director of the NSA, CEO of a publicly traded company, and now as Venture Capitalist. In this episode, we discuss election interference, attacks in critical infrastructure, 5G, the “zero trust” principle, open source software, and his overall industry takeaways.

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Ron Ross: “Elevating Security Posture at Scale”

Today’s guest is Ron Ross, Fellow at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)

In this episode, we explore the profound positive impact standards have on our security posture and how software development life cycle will contribute significantly towards this end.

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Ron Gula: “Closing the Gap to Defend the Country”

Today’s Guest: Ron Gula, Co-Founder & President of Gula Tech Adventures

In this episode, we explore the increasing impact individuals, companies, and non-profits can have in securing the country and the importance of educating ourselves on the risks digital services have in our lives.

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Tia Hopkins: “Competence Has No Competition”

Today’s Guest: Tia Hopkins, VP of Global Solutions Engineering at eSentire

In this episode, we explore how to challenge perceived authority and expertise without making people defensive.

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